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		<title>By: Rewind</title>
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		<description>guys I know the upcomming movie is up but I feel that since this
post is basically the most G-1 related post No where else could i post something similar.(unless Shawn or darkchop would put a word in.)

Suffice to say one thing that even the original composer of the transformers series was always the music.

In the past the Japanese have made a few albums of the complete music to their dubb of Transformers, so why can't we get the same treatment for the one we remember.
Re-mastered, every Background music,Generation1 down to that of the transformers movie and beyond (yes you heard me.. I like the music tracks of even beast wars)I'd even like re-mastered voices of most fo the characters as a bonus.

If only someone here could contact whoever owns the rights to the music.

(Remember,though The Japanese had the "diaclone" toyline in 1983, The cartoon first came out in the West in 1984 and in ENGLISH and the japs got the dubb of this in 1985 so theoretically, the ENGLISH version was first.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys I know the upcomming movie is up but I feel that since this<br />
post is basically the most G-1 related post No where else could i post something similar.(unless Shawn or darkchop would put a word in.)</p>
<p>Suffice to say one thing that even the original composer of the transformers series was always the music.</p>
<p>In the past the Japanese have made a few albums of the complete music to their dubb of Transformers, so why can&#8217;t we get the same treatment for the one we remember.<br />
Re-mastered, every Background music,Generation1 down to that of the transformers movie and beyond (yes you heard me.. I like the music tracks of even beast wars)I&#8217;d even like re-mastered voices of most fo the characters as a bonus.</p>
<p>If only someone here could contact whoever owns the rights to the music.</p>
<p>(Remember,though The Japanese had the &#8220;diaclone&#8221; toyline in 1983, The cartoon first came out in the West in 1984 and in ENGLISH and the japs got the dubb of this in 1985 so theoretically, the ENGLISH version was first.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rewind</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where the hell did you guys come from??? That encompased many points.</description>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Seth51.. I agree with what you wrote, Michael Bay has got no originality, no clues on movie making.. Let's just use the Irag war as an excuse to start a fictional inter-galactic war between two robotic races.. I personally think it's a propaganda "stunt" thought up by George Bush.. 

Yeah, i agree with the whole Batman rip-off where Bumblebee beamed an Autobot symbol into space, with a budget of $147 million dollars that's the best Bay can come up with.. Well that was a waste of money.. Sector 7..?? Need i say more.. What about the transformers faces, some look awfully similar to the designs of Manga classics such as "Gundam" and "Guyver.. Once again, $147 million dollar budget and the best he can come up with is riping off other peoples work.. Bumblebee's face, if you look closer he looks strangely familiar to the yellow grunts in the HALO trilogy of video games made by Microsoft.. I tell you one thing, $147 million dollars goes pretty far these days in Hollywood, doesn't it..?? 

Once again Seth51, that was a nice post..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Seth51.. I agree with what you wrote, Michael Bay has got no originality, no clues on movie making.. Let&#8217;s just use the Irag war as an excuse to start a fictional inter-galactic war between two robotic races.. I personally think it&#8217;s a propaganda &#8220;stunt&#8221; thought up by George Bush.. </p>
<p>Yeah, i agree with the whole Batman rip-off where Bumblebee beamed an Autobot symbol into space, with a budget of $147 million dollars that&#8217;s the best Bay can come up with.. Well that was a waste of money.. Sector 7..?? Need i say more.. What about the transformers faces, some look awfully similar to the designs of Manga classics such as &#8220;Gundam&#8221; and &#8220;Guyver.. Once again, $147 million dollar budget and the best he can come up with is riping off other peoples work.. Bumblebee&#8217;s face, if you look closer he looks strangely familiar to the yellow grunts in the HALO trilogy of video games made by Microsoft.. I tell you one thing, $147 million dollars goes pretty far these days in Hollywood, doesn&#8217;t it..?? </p>
<p>Once again Seth51, that was a nice post..</p>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was nicely written, gillslayer.. Two thumbs up.. There is nothing to smile about with Bay's "interpretation", other then Megan Fox and hearing Peter Cullen reprising his role as the voice of Optimus Prime.. Pity Frank Welker was brushed aside for someone like Hugo Weaving (Matrix fame, as the Agent..)

One thing i need to say though is, Primes successor.... Rodimus Prime was a bad choice as a leader, i thought that Ultra Magnus would have been a more "appropriate" choice as the new leader of the Autobots.. What i would also like to know is this, in the animated movie didn't Ultra Magnus die..?? So when was he put back together and resurrected..?? Because we all saw him getting beat down and destroyed, yet at the end of the movie when Rodimus Prime speaks for the first time as leader of the autobots, there's Ultra Magnus behind Arcee..

That Wierd Al Yankovic song was "Dare to be stupid", when they end up on the junk planet.. I personally like Stan Bushs' tunes and Vince Dicola's, Weird Al's song did suite "that" part of the movie to a tea..

Once again though, nice post gillSlayer..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was nicely written, gillslayer.. Two thumbs up.. There is nothing to smile about with Bay&#8217;s &#8220;interpretation&#8221;, other then Megan Fox and hearing Peter Cullen reprising his role as the voice of Optimus Prime.. Pity Frank Welker was brushed aside for someone like Hugo Weaving (Matrix fame, as the Agent..)</p>
<p>One thing i need to say though is, Primes successor&#8230;. Rodimus Prime was a bad choice as a leader, i thought that Ultra Magnus would have been a more &#8220;appropriate&#8221; choice as the new leader of the Autobots.. What i would also like to know is this, in the animated movie didn&#8217;t Ultra Magnus die..?? So when was he put back together and resurrected..?? Because we all saw him getting beat down and destroyed, yet at the end of the movie when Rodimus Prime speaks for the first time as leader of the autobots, there&#8217;s Ultra Magnus behind Arcee..</p>
<p>That Wierd Al Yankovic song was &#8220;Dare to be stupid&#8221;, when they end up on the junk planet.. I personally like Stan Bushs&#8217; tunes and Vince Dicola&#8217;s, Weird Al&#8217;s song did suite &#8220;that&#8221; part of the movie to a tea..</p>
<p>Once again though, nice post gillSlayer..</p>
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		<description>thank Seth51 for posting up that article.

I'd like to add one that seems to complement it.

http://technorati.com/wtf/transformers/2007/06/30/this-is-not-a-real-transformers-movie-1
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Transformers: The Movie, from 1986
Surely this is not how Orson Welles imagined it would end. According to the chronology appended to Peter Bogdanovich's This Is Orson Welles, on Oct. 5, 1985, Welles spent the day on the set of Transformers: The Movie, giving voice to Unicron, a villainous, planet-eating planet. On Oct. 10, he was dead. The man's first feature film had been Citizen Kane; his last was an animated movie based on a line of toy robots. 

Of course, by 1985 Welles was a long way from Rosebud. His most visible role at that point was as a pitchman for Paul Masson wine, a responsibility he does not seem to have always discharged ably. He'd also recently cut the voiceover for the Revenge of the Nerds trailer. But it would be a mistake to lump Transformers in with Welles' other regrettable late-career moves. Though a modest film compared with Michael Bay's blockbuster out today, the original Transformers is the better film. And for a certain subset of Americans—boys who were 9 in 1986—it was every bit as shocking as War of the Worlds had been for Grandma and Grandpa. 

Bay's Transformers bears no resemblance to the original in terms of plot, but both movies are grounded in the same fundamental mythology. Back in the early '80s, the wily folks at Hasbro realized that the only thing better than a toy truck was a toy truck that was also a toy robot. Transformers were born, and, as was standard practice at the time, Hasbro promptly commissioned a half-hour afternoon cartoon to fill in the back story and market the toys to unsuspecting kids like me. 


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The Transformers, from a planet called Cybertron, were divided into two factions—the goodly Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, and the evil Decepticons, led by Megatron, who transformed from a robot into a handgun. After a long civil war, the two sides somehow end up on Earth, where their battles continue and where the cartoon picks up their story. Most episodes involved the Decepticons devising a dastardly plot to take over the universe—only to be thwarted by the Autobots.

Late-afternoon television was full of programming like this in the mid-'80s, whether it was He-Man or G.I. Joe. Transformers, though, was the first such show to jump to the silver screen. Those of us who raced to theaters as third-graders thus assumed that what we were about to see would be like the TV show, just longer and awesomer. Only in our wildest dreams did we think that the show might celebrate its liberation from network television by letting loose with a curse word. And only in our scariest nightmares would we have imagined that a mere 20 minutes into the movie, Optimus Prime, the most beloved of Autobots, would be killed by Megatron. 

To use a phrase I learned the day I saw Transformers, "Oh, shit!" No one ever died in these shows. Even in G.I. Joe, a cartoon about a special U.S. Army strike force, no Rattler was ever shot down without the pilot first safely ejecting. But in the Transformers movie, the death toll was jaw-dropping. More than a dozen marquee characters are dispatched in the film, among them one of my personal favorites, Starscream, the Decepticon malcontent always scheming to relieve Megatron of his command.

Of course, all of this bloodshed had a specific purpose—to move toys. In the commentary track on the 20th-anniversary edition of the movie, Flint Dille, one of the writers, explains he was instructed to eliminate much of the existing product line to make room for the new characters Hasbro was planning to sell me. I already owned Optimus Prime, after all. 

As a 9-year-old, it hardly occurred to me that this robot bloodbath was a marketing ploy. It just blew me away. Witnessing death on that scale was shocking to a sensibility that had been nurtured on white-knuckled but always successful repair operations by the trusty Autobot mechanic-medic, Ratchet. 
It's funny to listen to the filmmakers on the DVD talk sheepishly about killing off all of those characters, Prime in particular. They genuinely regret it. But in watching the movie again as a grown-up, you realize that Hasbro's profit motive had the unintended consequence of forcing the movie to tell a much more sophisticated story than might otherwise have been possible. With Prime off to the great scrapheap in the sky by the end of the first act, the movie becomes one about finding a leader who can take on Prime's mantle and defeat not just Megatron, but also Orson Welles' Unicron, eating his way through the galaxy. And in a nice mythic twist, Prime's successor turns out to be an Autobot no one—not even Prime—thought it would be. 

Bay's new Transformers is fun in its own goofy way, and there are enough sops to the fanboys that most will go home happy. Peter Cullen reprises his role as the voice of Optimus Prime, and the screenwriters manage not one but two invocations of the immortal phrase "more than meets the eye." But there's nothing even approaching the original's narrative depth. The good guys beat the bad guys, and no one we care about is harmed in the process—the movie hasn't succeeded in making us care about anyone. Prime comes across as a stand-up guy, but we have no real sense of Megatron's motivations or of Starscream's ambition. Bumblebee, the robot we spend the most time with in the movie, doesn't get a speaking part until the penultimate scene. The high-octane violence and PG-13 attentions lavished on Megan Fox's torso may attract some new young fans, but in the end Bay's Transformers feels timid compared with the 1985 version. 

Now, before you scuttle your plans to go see the new Transformers and queue up a copy of the old one instead, let me say this. A Brad Bird production it is not. I admit that my appreciation for the animated movie is colored by nostalgia—for the toys but also for the decade that produced them. Blur, a fast-talking Autobot, is voiced by John Moschitta Jr., better known as the Micro Machines guy. The soundtrack features a song by Weird Al Yankovic and an inspirational anthem worthy of the Karate Kid's Joe "The Bean" Esposito. Robert Stack, Casey Kasem, and Judd Nelson round out what can safely be called one of the stranger casts in cinematic history.

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As for the strangest member of that cast, Orson Welles does not seem to have been very proud of his work. Film historian Joseph McBride quotes Welles saying of his participation: "I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I'm destroyed." He needn't have been quite so dismissive. Welles' voice was apparently so weak by the time he made his recording that technicians needed to run it through a synthesizer to salvage it. But listen closely as the ruthless Unicron explains his plan to bring the universe to its knees. I swear you can almost hear a younger Welles, plotting his conquest of a different world as the imperious Charles Foster Kane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank Seth51 for posting up that article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add one that seems to complement it.</p>
<p><a href="http://technorati.com/wtf/transformers/2007/06/30/this-is-not-a-real-transformers-movie-1" rel="nofollow">http://technorati.com/wtf/transformers/2007/06/30/this-is-not-a-real-transformers-movie-1</a><br />
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<p>Transformers: The Movie, from 1986<br />
Surely this is not how Orson Welles imagined it would end. According to the chronology appended to Peter Bogdanovich&#8217;s This Is Orson Welles, on Oct. 5, 1985, Welles spent the day on the set of Transformers: The Movie, giving voice to Unicron, a villainous, planet-eating planet. On Oct. 10, he was dead. The man&#8217;s first feature film had been Citizen Kane; his last was an animated movie based on a line of toy robots. </p>
<p>Of course, by 1985 Welles was a long way from Rosebud. His most visible role at that point was as a pitchman for Paul Masson wine, a responsibility he does not seem to have always discharged ably. He&#8217;d also recently cut the voiceover for the Revenge of the Nerds trailer. But it would be a mistake to lump Transformers in with Welles&#8217; other regrettable late-career moves. Though a modest film compared with Michael Bay&#8217;s blockbuster out today, the original Transformers is the better film. And for a certain subset of Americans—boys who were 9 in 1986—it was every bit as shocking as War of the Worlds had been for Grandma and Grandpa. </p>
<p>Bay&#8217;s Transformers bears no resemblance to the original in terms of plot, but both movies are grounded in the same fundamental mythology. Back in the early &#8217;80s, the wily folks at Hasbro realized that the only thing better than a toy truck was a toy truck that was also a toy robot. Transformers were born, and, as was standard practice at the time, Hasbro promptly commissioned a half-hour afternoon cartoon to fill in the back story and market the toys to unsuspecting kids like me. </p>
<p>-</p>
<p>The Transformers, from a planet called Cybertron, were divided into two factions—the goodly Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, and the evil Decepticons, led by Megatron, who transformed from a robot into a handgun. After a long civil war, the two sides somehow end up on Earth, where their battles continue and where the cartoon picks up their story. Most episodes involved the Decepticons devising a dastardly plot to take over the universe—only to be thwarted by the Autobots.</p>
<p>Late-afternoon television was full of programming like this in the mid-&#8217;80s, whether it was He-Man or G.I. Joe. Transformers, though, was the first such show to jump to the silver screen. Those of us who raced to theaters as third-graders thus assumed that what we were about to see would be like the TV show, just longer and awesomer. Only in our wildest dreams did we think that the show might celebrate its liberation from network television by letting loose with a curse word. And only in our scariest nightmares would we have imagined that a mere 20 minutes into the movie, Optimus Prime, the most beloved of Autobots, would be killed by Megatron. </p>
<p>To use a phrase I learned the day I saw Transformers, &#8220;Oh, shit!&#8221; No one ever died in these shows. Even in G.I. Joe, a cartoon about a special U.S. Army strike force, no Rattler was ever shot down without the pilot first safely ejecting. But in the Transformers movie, the death toll was jaw-dropping. More than a dozen marquee characters are dispatched in the film, among them one of my personal favorites, Starscream, the Decepticon malcontent always scheming to relieve Megatron of his command.</p>
<p>Of course, all of this bloodshed had a specific purpose—to move toys. In the commentary track on the 20th-anniversary edition of the movie, Flint Dille, one of the writers, explains he was instructed to eliminate much of the existing product line to make room for the new characters Hasbro was planning to sell me. I already owned Optimus Prime, after all. </p>
<p>As a 9-year-old, it hardly occurred to me that this robot bloodbath was a marketing ploy. It just blew me away. Witnessing death on that scale was shocking to a sensibility that had been nurtured on white-knuckled but always successful repair operations by the trusty Autobot mechanic-medic, Ratchet.<br />
It&#8217;s funny to listen to the filmmakers on the DVD talk sheepishly about killing off all of those characters, Prime in particular. They genuinely regret it. But in watching the movie again as a grown-up, you realize that Hasbro&#8217;s profit motive had the unintended consequence of forcing the movie to tell a much more sophisticated story than might otherwise have been possible. With Prime off to the great scrapheap in the sky by the end of the first act, the movie becomes one about finding a leader who can take on Prime&#8217;s mantle and defeat not just Megatron, but also Orson Welles&#8217; Unicron, eating his way through the galaxy. And in a nice mythic twist, Prime&#8217;s successor turns out to be an Autobot no one—not even Prime—thought it would be. </p>
<p>Bay&#8217;s new Transformers is fun in its own goofy way, and there are enough sops to the fanboys that most will go home happy. Peter Cullen reprises his role as the voice of Optimus Prime, and the screenwriters manage not one but two invocations of the immortal phrase &#8220;more than meets the eye.&#8221; But there&#8217;s nothing even approaching the original&#8217;s narrative depth. The good guys beat the bad guys, and no one we care about is harmed in the process—the movie hasn&#8217;t succeeded in making us care about anyone. Prime comes across as a stand-up guy, but we have no real sense of Megatron&#8217;s motivations or of Starscream&#8217;s ambition. Bumblebee, the robot we spend the most time with in the movie, doesn&#8217;t get a speaking part until the penultimate scene. The high-octane violence and PG-13 attentions lavished on Megan Fox&#8217;s torso may attract some new young fans, but in the end Bay&#8217;s Transformers feels timid compared with the 1985 version. </p>
<p>Now, before you scuttle your plans to go see the new Transformers and queue up a copy of the old one instead, let me say this. A Brad Bird production it is not. I admit that my appreciation for the animated movie is colored by nostalgia—for the toys but also for the decade that produced them. Blur, a fast-talking Autobot, is voiced by John Moschitta Jr., better known as the Micro Machines guy. The soundtrack features a song by Weird Al Yankovic and an inspirational anthem worthy of the Karate Kid&#8217;s Joe &#8220;The Bean&#8221; Esposito. Robert Stack, Casey Kasem, and Judd Nelson round out what can safely be called one of the stranger casts in cinematic history.</p>
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<p>As for the strangest member of that cast, Orson Welles does not seem to have been very proud of his work. Film historian Joseph McBride quotes Welles saying of his participation: &#8220;I play a planet. I menace somebody called Something-or-other. Then I&#8217;m destroyed.&#8221; He needn&#8217;t have been quite so dismissive. Welles&#8217; voice was apparently so weak by the time he made his recording that technicians needed to run it through a synthesizer to salvage it. But listen closely as the ruthless Unicron explains his plan to bring the universe to its knees. I swear you can almost hear a younger Welles, plotting his conquest of a different world as the imperious Charles Foster Kane.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth51</title>
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		<description>As a transformers fan of old. I have read many of the comments posted here  and wanted somehow to tell people why some fans felt almost cheated by micheal bay's live movie.

The words would not come up right. Suffice to say someone has beaten me to the punch.

This post seems to give a a picture of what many an old die hard fan.
Upon reading this I felt this way...
Kudos to andy for summing up the feelings of many a fan who really expected more from the movie
here is the link and extract.I seriously hope this would find its way to teh right people and have the desired effect. For all fans of transformers read on. perhaps ths would shed some light on the subject..

http://andydreamseeker.blogspot.com/2007/06/movie-review-transformers.html
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*Andy wanted this not to be a Transformers movie.
I mean just who are these robots in disguise as the Transformers?
(This review has been partially edited on 9th July 2007. Andy felt a need to review his review.)

Transformers is a movie about alien robots divided into good (Autobots) and evil (Decepticons) raging a war between each other while searching for a cube known as the Allspark which is a source of life for them that has found its way into earth.

From the cartoons in its 80s days and a movie version in two-dimensional rendering, it has found a new source of life when DreamWorks, Paramount and Hasbro decided to make a blockbuster movie franchise out of it.
This 2007 summer movie will be the first of a trilogy with two sequels already confirmed.

But after watching it, I felt an amount of disgust about it.
I’m not saying that it is a bad film but I cannot say that it is good either.
Despite the fact that I understand Transformers would undoubtedly become a hit among the masses for many factors…
I still could not like it.

I raised a question.
Why do they make movies like this?

I stared at this question long and hard.
This is a commercial film for the mass market.
A large population on earth knew what the Transformers are.
It will generate lots of money for the companies involved.
I shall repeat it; this is a commercial film for the mass market.

Talk about the number of toys a movie like Transformers can sell.
Hasbro is going to be rich.
Talk about product placements in a movie like Transformers with the names of Panasonic, Nokia, Chevrolet, GMC and the likes showing up.
Product marketing cannot be more obvious.
It’s all in the money.

Money makes the world goes round.
So this is earth and the human race, the world that Optimus Prime and his Autobots are trying to save?

What a sorry state the movie industry has transformed into.

With a budget of $147million, the moviemakers totally changed the Transformers.
The Autobots and the Decepticons no longer resemble the Transformers of the 80s.
Instead of transforming, the robots actually morphed themselves into auto-vehicles, helicopters and jet-planes.
That is uncool to me because transformation and morphing are two different elements altogether.

The good about this film fell solely on the CGI and special effects.
The film looked cool owing much to the efforts put in by the CGI and special effects team.

The action however left lots to be desired.
The sequences were unimaginative.
It is boring to see things happening the same way again and again.
Things were just either blowing up or crashing down.
The actions felt like a collection of videos from “Amazing Car Chases” or “Amazing Plane Crashes” put together.
There were no definition and aesthetics so to speak.

The talk on aesthetics would lead me to the thought on the robot's design.
Over elaboration and complexity marred the originality of the Transformers.
Director Michael Bay made most of the “Big” decisions in creating this movie.
Namely he changed Bumblebee from a Volkswagen Beetle into a Chevrolet Camaro and he also influenced the design of the robots by suggesting that the classic “boxy” style would look fake in a three-dimensional environment and thus introduced a complex mechanical look with thousands of visible pieces instead.
It was questionable why executive producer Steven Spielberg wanted him to direct this film.
Michael Bay did thought of the Transformers as a “stupid toy movie” for a start.

It is really OK to change things around by giving them a more recent and modern feel but origin still has to be respected.
I find that missing from this movie.

What I found was a real jumble of things instead.
Let me first make a list of other movies.
Batman, Short Circuit, Robocop, Terminator, Gremlins, Armageddon and M.I.B all seem to appear in Transformers sparking me to think toward a lack of creativity on the side of the moviemakers.

Take for instance a scene where Bumblebee beamed a symbol of the Autobots into the night sky.
Isn’t that Batman?

And how about having the Decepticon’s spy, Frenzy, looking and behaving like an evil Gremlin while demonstrating an ability to retrieve data from a computer mainframe by stabbing into it like what Robocop did.

Now tell me why the only way alien life forms can arrive on earth is through a meteor crashing down and then being bare-naked needed to find clothing to disguise themselves among humans?
Terminator?

Sector 7, a top-secret government agency dealing with the topic of extra-terrestrial is just M.I.B aren’t they?

Transformers just cannot be Sci-Fi and be happy about it; they have to pull in a military angle of the Iraq war to make this into a war film.

And if that is not enough why not have a teenager become a hero for holding the key to victory against the Decepticons and then reward his heroism with a hot and sexy female in Megan Fox.
This should be so appealing to the teenage audience.

Besides the jumble, Transformers also malfunction in way of pacing.
It is one action after another without consideration for character development and story building.
One moment there’s a war going on, next moment there’s a car chase and next robots will pitch against one another like a wrestling match.

The lack of considerations does not end with the script.
Cinematography for the movie lack a sense of dynamism and beauty.
I couldn't make out the purpose of the camera movements.
I could only think that the director was creating an experience of chaos with the camera shakes going along with the sound effects of mainly the bass of "boom", "boom" and "boom" to give us a truly cinematic experience.
It was a headache.

I know most people will enjoy a movie like Transformers because of the CGI and actions.
I too am someone who enjoys movie of that sort if they were well done.
Michael Bay's attempt on a Transformers movie that was filled with explosions, crashes and cheap humor however was not.

There really should be more than meets the eye in terms of better values unseen here in Transformers.

(What I found after reading close to a thousand comments on other movie sites about the Transformers is that most people who didn't like the film really wanted the film to be good. Many of those who liked the film however just didn't really cared much because they felt that it was just a movie about robots fighting robots with awesome effects that looked cool.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a transformers fan of old. I have read many of the comments posted here  and wanted somehow to tell people why some fans felt almost cheated by micheal bay&#8217;s live movie.</p>
<p>The words would not come up right. Suffice to say someone has beaten me to the punch.</p>
<p>This post seems to give a a picture of what many an old die hard fan.<br />
Upon reading this I felt this way&#8230;<br />
Kudos to andy for summing up the feelings of many a fan who really expected more from the movie<br />
here is the link and extract.I seriously hope this would find its way to teh right people and have the desired effect. For all fans of transformers read on. perhaps ths would shed some light on the subject..</p>
<p><a href="http://andydreamseeker.blogspot.com/2007/06/movie-review-transformers.html" rel="nofollow">http://andydreamseeker.blogspot.com/2007/06/movie-review-transformers.html</a><br />
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<p>*Andy wanted this not to be a Transformers movie.<br />
I mean just who are these robots in disguise as the Transformers?<br />
(This review has been partially edited on 9th July 2007. Andy felt a need to review his review.)</p>
<p>Transformers is a movie about alien robots divided into good (Autobots) and evil (Decepticons) raging a war between each other while searching for a cube known as the Allspark which is a source of life for them that has found its way into earth.</p>
<p>From the cartoons in its 80s days and a movie version in two-dimensional rendering, it has found a new source of life when DreamWorks, Paramount and Hasbro decided to make a blockbuster movie franchise out of it.<br />
This 2007 summer movie will be the first of a trilogy with two sequels already confirmed.</p>
<p>But after watching it, I felt an amount of disgust about it.<br />
I’m not saying that it is a bad film but I cannot say that it is good either.<br />
Despite the fact that I understand Transformers would undoubtedly become a hit among the masses for many factors…<br />
I still could not like it.</p>
<p>I raised a question.<br />
Why do they make movies like this?</p>
<p>I stared at this question long and hard.<br />
This is a commercial film for the mass market.<br />
A large population on earth knew what the Transformers are.<br />
It will generate lots of money for the companies involved.<br />
I shall repeat it; this is a commercial film for the mass market.</p>
<p>Talk about the number of toys a movie like Transformers can sell.<br />
Hasbro is going to be rich.<br />
Talk about product placements in a movie like Transformers with the names of Panasonic, Nokia, Chevrolet, GMC and the likes showing up.<br />
Product marketing cannot be more obvious.<br />
It’s all in the money.</p>
<p>Money makes the world goes round.<br />
So this is earth and the human race, the world that Optimus Prime and his Autobots are trying to save?</p>
<p>What a sorry state the movie industry has transformed into.</p>
<p>With a budget of $147million, the moviemakers totally changed the Transformers.<br />
The Autobots and the Decepticons no longer resemble the Transformers of the 80s.<br />
Instead of transforming, the robots actually morphed themselves into auto-vehicles, helicopters and jet-planes.<br />
That is uncool to me because transformation and morphing are two different elements altogether.</p>
<p>The good about this film fell solely on the CGI and special effects.<br />
The film looked cool owing much to the efforts put in by the CGI and special effects team.</p>
<p>The action however left lots to be desired.<br />
The sequences were unimaginative.<br />
It is boring to see things happening the same way again and again.<br />
Things were just either blowing up or crashing down.<br />
The actions felt like a collection of videos from “Amazing Car Chases” or “Amazing Plane Crashes” put together.<br />
There were no definition and aesthetics so to speak.</p>
<p>The talk on aesthetics would lead me to the thought on the robot&#8217;s design.<br />
Over elaboration and complexity marred the originality of the Transformers.<br />
Director Michael Bay made most of the “Big” decisions in creating this movie.<br />
Namely he changed Bumblebee from a Volkswagen Beetle into a Chevrolet Camaro and he also influenced the design of the robots by suggesting that the classic “boxy” style would look fake in a three-dimensional environment and thus introduced a complex mechanical look with thousands of visible pieces instead.<br />
It was questionable why executive producer Steven Spielberg wanted him to direct this film.<br />
Michael Bay did thought of the Transformers as a “stupid toy movie” for a start.</p>
<p>It is really OK to change things around by giving them a more recent and modern feel but origin still has to be respected.<br />
I find that missing from this movie.</p>
<p>What I found was a real jumble of things instead.<br />
Let me first make a list of other movies.<br />
Batman, Short Circuit, Robocop, Terminator, Gremlins, Armageddon and M.I.B all seem to appear in Transformers sparking me to think toward a lack of creativity on the side of the moviemakers.</p>
<p>Take for instance a scene where Bumblebee beamed a symbol of the Autobots into the night sky.<br />
Isn’t that Batman?</p>
<p>And how about having the Decepticon’s spy, Frenzy, looking and behaving like an evil Gremlin while demonstrating an ability to retrieve data from a computer mainframe by stabbing into it like what Robocop did.</p>
<p>Now tell me why the only way alien life forms can arrive on earth is through a meteor crashing down and then being bare-naked needed to find clothing to disguise themselves among humans?<br />
Terminator?</p>
<p>Sector 7, a top-secret government agency dealing with the topic of extra-terrestrial is just M.I.B aren’t they?</p>
<p>Transformers just cannot be Sci-Fi and be happy about it; they have to pull in a military angle of the Iraq war to make this into a war film.</p>
<p>And if that is not enough why not have a teenager become a hero for holding the key to victory against the Decepticons and then reward his heroism with a hot and sexy female in Megan Fox.<br />
This should be so appealing to the teenage audience.</p>
<p>Besides the jumble, Transformers also malfunction in way of pacing.<br />
It is one action after another without consideration for character development and story building.<br />
One moment there’s a war going on, next moment there’s a car chase and next robots will pitch against one another like a wrestling match.</p>
<p>The lack of considerations does not end with the script.<br />
Cinematography for the movie lack a sense of dynamism and beauty.<br />
I couldn&#8217;t make out the purpose of the camera movements.<br />
I could only think that the director was creating an experience of chaos with the camera shakes going along with the sound effects of mainly the bass of &#8220;boom&#8221;, &#8220;boom&#8221; and &#8220;boom&#8221; to give us a truly cinematic experience.<br />
It was a headache.</p>
<p>I know most people will enjoy a movie like Transformers because of the CGI and actions.<br />
I too am someone who enjoys movie of that sort if they were well done.<br />
Michael Bay&#8217;s attempt on a Transformers movie that was filled with explosions, crashes and cheap humor however was not.</p>
<p>There really should be more than meets the eye in terms of better values unseen here in Transformers.</p>
<p>(What I found after reading close to a thousand comments on other movie sites about the Transformers is that most people who didn&#8217;t like the film really wanted the film to be good. Many of those who liked the film however just didn&#8217;t really cared much because they felt that it was just a movie about robots fighting robots with awesome effects that looked cool.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is another one. Think this one tells us who is to blame for this mess..
http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2006/09/transformer-wrap-poem.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is another one. Think this one tells us who is to blame for this mess..<br />
<a href="http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2006/09/transformer-wrap-poem.html" rel="nofollow">http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2006/09/transformer-wrap-poem.html</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the movie's Originality????
much less cohesion one believability??</description>
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much less cohesion one believability??</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attack anything that relates to the transformers, because we both obviously are "true" TF fans, so we know what we like and dislike.. And this movie we both clearly dislike.. Why i attack the people based on this subject, is because they are stupid.. They seem to think that by watching one episode of G1... they seem to know everything.. They seem to think that by watching this live action movie with only 13 transformers, they think it's awesome and whatnot.. They are nothing more then "paper" fans who have no clues about what transformers are all about.. That's why i say what i say, because i hate these kinda people that see one episode and they think they know everything there is to know, and then they go on to make stupid comments that "the cartoon is inferior compared to the live action movie, because they can actually move.."

But with today's CG technology, can't they make them move, yet keep the originality..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attack anything that relates to the transformers, because we both obviously are &#8220;true&#8221; TF fans, so we know what we like and dislike.. And this movie we both clearly dislike.. Why i attack the people based on this subject, is because they are stupid.. They seem to think that by watching one episode of G1&#8230; they seem to know everything.. They seem to think that by watching this live action movie with only 13 transformers, they think it&#8217;s awesome and whatnot.. They are nothing more then &#8220;paper&#8221; fans who have no clues about what transformers are all about.. That&#8217;s why i say what i say, because i hate these kinda people that see one episode and they think they know everything there is to know, and then they go on to make stupid comments that &#8220;the cartoon is inferior compared to the live action movie, because they can actually move..&#8221;</p>
<p>But with today&#8217;s CG technology, can&#8217;t they make them move, yet keep the originality..</p>
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