With the devestator debate, that wasn’t Brawl.. Brawl was part of the combaticons who made up bruticus.. Brawl was a tank and made up one of the arms.. So how could Michael Bay get it so wrong..?? Devastator was made up of 6 contructacons (or was it 5)

They can’t seem to argue my points so they resort to some schoolyard “vocabulary” that one uses when they can’t get on the monkey bars and they start throwing a tantrum.. That’s what I’m constantly getting on these forums, and Dave is no exception..

Your post makes perfect sense Rewind, but I’ve been saying and arguing those exact same points from the moment i went on this forum and started posting.. Yet, till this day, I’m getting no intelligent replies, rather I’m getting these childish rants that seem to look like posts, but with nothing in them..

let us put is this way to make it seay ti understand (even for a yellow bus reject in denial…yes I am talking to you baby)

personality lets brake that down shall we??
they are transformers, meaning if they study what we speak it means meaning they DO NOT USE ANY COLLOQUIAL like we use it bar wisecracks due to the entertaiment value.

when optimus says “my bad” now where in the series would he even say that, perhaps “sorry” or “I apologize” i mean we are dealing with one of the wisest autobots right?

that is one of the main building blocks of a character, the way they speak..

secondly, optimus mentions to megatron near the end of the movie “sorry brother”. I thought autobots and decepticons were different models made by the same makers.. one for war, the other for labor.
as with optimus co-ruling with megatron as suggested
really does distictly sever the old from the new and if not really is not what prime was in G1
the character if you read between the lines leads by necessity
and would not want to gain power.(much like ultra magnus but with mor confidence)
in fact all the majorty of autobots would bot harm humans no mattre hwo insignificant nevenb if prime is not present.
as with iron hide wanting to blast sams parents.. that is decepticon talk.

as with the live movie being what it is, REAL FANS DID NOT ask for an exact transfer.. rather a much better compromise closer to g1.. cant any guys who argue get that established???

the argument isn’t ruing innerchildhood.(that was commedy although if you cant read between the lines and find the matureness in that post they you are mor eimmature that the guy who posted it)
the argument (for all those who want to match up)

The argument is KEEP the universe”conventions” as close to the original. as was lord of the rings.. this is not to say keep it the way it was exactly..just don’t screw with the set universe, until you have undertood it completely. adding to it is okay… but the movie how many things where
changed but it wound up making it more immature and hard to swallow that it already is??

they hsoudl have kept it from the view point of the bots themselves.
more imagination and appreciation woudl come from that viewpoint and much more potential.

as with the actors, they did their job well but having a slogan
“No sacrifice no victory” really makes it cheezy that kind of word would work in a martial arts flick (since the acting is really not needed)
but in this movie does it make it sound mature???
N one is that optimistic in war.

Peter jackson got it right and appreciated the book long before he did the lord of the rings movie??
and peter bay did only after????

naturally a fan would do a better job rather than a newly made convert.
logical???

lastly insults that low really show how much of an argument that person has.Low to nil..

so shoot.

That’s a little snippet of an interview Michael Bay which had been written in a newspaper in Australia.. Care to argue my points now, dude..?? I’ve been saying this all along that Michael bay f**ked it up.. Now, judging by your post Dave, I’m starting to wonder whether or not your in fact a child, because your comebacks and pointless dribble are pretty childish.. I’m bitching about this because I’m a “TRUE” fan not some try hard “paper” fan such as yourself Dave.. Obviously, the truth hurt otherwise your post would not have been so “colourful”.. I hate how hollywood changes things (alas War of the Worlds etc…) to suit them and transformers is no exception.. I’m aware of all the “other” version of the transformers such as Energon, Cybertron, Beast Wars, 2010 etc… I’m also aware that they have changed states and transformations etc… but those series just like this years “interpretation” of the transformers is nothing more then a marketing ploy to cash in on a brand name..

“Ever since re-creating the attack on Pearl Harbour with the aid of CGI, Bay has become a wizard at harnessing digital technology for action..”

Harnessing what attack..?? What, that pitiful 20minute action sequence..?? What about the rest of the 2hrs and 30mins of torture people had to endure, seeing Josh Harnett going after his love interest or fighting with his close friend because of the nurse.. That’s not harnessing CGI, is it..??

All I’m gonna say is that Michael Bay is nothing more then a Mark Wahlberg of the movie making industry, like Mark Wahlberg who can’t act and sing if live depended on it, Michael Bay can’t direct a movie if life depended on it.. He is nothing more then a “paper” fan, a sham if you will.. All he is, is a shadow of Jerry Bruckheimer, and trying so desperately to separate himself from just being know as Jerry’s bitch, but he can’t, because he’s not good enough.. To put it into more “colourful” terms, he sucks..

The only reason why the transformers will do well in the box office is because of the “transformers” name, nothing more… “My bad” (excuse my Optimus Prime attempt at humor) i forgot Megan Fox, she’s the other reason why the movie will do well at the box office..!!